tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1873778574973201433.post1269000941288408681..comments2023-03-02T00:29:47.688-08:00Comments on Jukka Zitting: Models of corporate open sourceAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06324831355629436046noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1873778574973201433.post-82879405618772914372010-11-07T18:01:38.000-08:002010-11-07T18:01:38.000-08:00Hey Jukka, great classification. I made a similar ...Hey Jukka, great classification. I made a similar one a few weeks ago at the NASA Earth Science Data Systems Working Group meetings in New Orleans, LA. Here are the slides: http://bit.ly/cI0WwJ. In it I classify FOSS models as "Help Desk" based (i.e. your #2 above), versus "Open Community" (i.e. your #3 above). And yes, I agree with your point about there not being one "best" model in all situations.Chris Mattmannhttp://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1873778574973201433.post-7242019412112232212010-11-07T19:38:48.000-08:002010-11-07T19:38:48.000-08:00Hen, I couldn't agree more with your biggest c...Hen, I couldn't agree more with your biggest concern. I've seen it even in Apache projects :(Chris Mattmannhttp://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1873778574973201433.post-53613066370378213462010-11-07T18:53:44.000-08:002010-11-07T18:53:44.000-08:00Nice categorization. Adding to it:0.5: Available S...Nice categorization. <br><br>Adding to it:<br><br>0.5: Available Source.<br><br>When talking to vendors, I often ask "And I get the source with that?". Generally they look surprised, take a while to parse the question and then say "No". Some vendors however will give me the source and are happy to work with a world in which I might do some work myself instead of having to rely on their slow product cycle and/or uninspired consultancy.<br><br>1.0: Open releases.<br><br>Important to note here that there is still an issue tracker; but it's a one way bug reporting mechanism. It's probably harder to manage, and nobody knows when the item will be fixed or what the thought is on it.<br><br>---<br><br>My biggest concern in Open Source is that model #2 will prove to be the sweet spot for corporate development (possibly with some improvements). In fact....<br><br>2.5: Open development with invitation<br><br>Maintain control over the project, but invite specific individuals in. Obtain an NDA/contract and let them inside the ivory towers while keeping them independent and community oriented.flamefewhttp://flamefew.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1873778574973201433.post-57497262118922945192010-11-08T01:32:56.000-08:002010-11-08T01:32:56.000-08:00Good points, thanks! The boundaries between these ...Good points, thanks! The boundaries between these (and other) models are necessarily fuzzy as there are a lot of variables in how you can set up and run an open source project.<br><br>About the sweet spot; the question for a for-profit company is often how much of their source code they can open up without undermining their sales efforts. Model #2 works great for cases like MySQL, and I see Oracle moving to assert similar control also over projects like OpenSolaris, OpenOffice and OpenJDK they acquired through Sun. Model #3 is more often seen with open core scenarios where you have a mix of open and closed source software, so it's not necessarily a net win for external people.Jukka Zittinghttp://jukkaz.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1873778574973201433.post-35699971899876492732010-11-12T12:29:21.000-08:002010-11-12T12:29:21.000-08:00[...] those beliefs and we hope it will strengthen...[...] those beliefs and we hope it will strengthen Nooku’s growth towards growing a truly open community [...]Nooku Contributor Agreement « Nooku Bloghttp://blog.nooku.org/2010/11/nooku-contributor-agreement/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1873778574973201433.post-65056060049818635382011-01-05T18:21:07.000-08:002011-01-05T18:21:07.000-08:00[...] Agreement. Both changes are forming the corn...[...] Agreement. Both changes are forming the cornerstones on which we are growing Nooku as a truly open community of [...]Happy Nooku Year ! « Nooku Bloghttp://blog.nooku.org/2011/01/happy-nooku-year/noreply@blogger.com